Tulsa Kinney talks about: coming to Los Angeles from southern Missouri; her art career, which was eclipsed by her writing and then her launch of Artillery, Los Angeles’ first glossy contemporary art magazine, in 2006. We talk about the struggles of running and surviving as an art mag, working with writers who are afraid to write critical reviews, the onerous aspects of the art world as Tulsa sees them, and the changing and expanding L.A. art world and how that might be affecting the magazine’s future. We’re joined by frequent co-host Deb Klowden Mann.